Keep it coming everyone! I agree, large or small groups brave enough to face the hunts deserve all the equipment we can muster. PTW really is being effective, as always, proud to be part of it!
Fantastic news!! The legends on the ground deserve all the help they can get. Until PTW came along, all their efforts have been at their own personal expense, which demonstrates the level of commitment these heroes possess. Equipment to help keep them safe and expose the wildlife crime taking place is priceless 💪
Brilliant work Protect the Wild! You and the amazing hunt sabs are lifesavers!!! Please keep going!! A thought of mine, to help defend the hunt sabs out in action even more, what about supplying crash helmets and body protectors (to protect the sabs head's and bodies from attackers) and pepper spray cans (which I think are legal) to the hunt sabs so they can defend themselves with these? It is just a thought, as there must be something, some type of equipment that the hunt sabs can easily use to protect themselves from getting hurt surely? After all, it is encouraging to see the police start to arrest these barbaric thugs (the hunts and supporters), but they have so far sadly failed to stop attacks on the hunt sabs from happening, so is there anything like what Jon Knight or what I mentioned above here be used to help protect the sabs from being attacked? Plus, if the attackers can see/have seen the hunt sabs have defensive equipment that they can use to effectively defend themselves with, they might think twice about trying to attack them again?
I have not supported badger baiting or deer hunting in any way and i particularly do not like hare coursing. Hares are harmless.
I am not really enjoying this debate, only saying what i think. That is my opinion. I am not sure i will make any more comments. Partly because my name is my real name and i need to keep an eye on my own safety. But don't take me the wrong way, i don't like cruelty. Just think the fox numbers need to be kept under control. As they were for a thousand years until the fox hunt got stopped in 2005. A thousand years is a long time and that is the life most of us were born into. I would not do anything to be cruel to a fox. If you think along the lines of a black and white gangster movie.
A fox eats a rabbit, a lamb and a chicken out of the farmers field then gets chased itself. Karma. What goes around comes back around.
They are out killing innocent foxes! They are not "picking on them", they are saving innocent lives and should be saluted and honoured for their efforts to help save innocent wild animals! I don't mean to be rude here, but if you are such a strong supporter of killing wildlife, why are you on here? Protect the wild exists to end all wildlife crime, including foxhunting, for good.
Thank you for letting us know Mrs Rosemary B Gilbert. I have just looked on my TV guide for channel 15 at 8pm tonight and It is brilliant that the truth is being shown live!! Hopefully, the more exposure and the more times the reality is shown, the harder it will be for hunts to easily wriggle free out of their lying claims once and for all!!
First of, all predators kill other wildlife to survive, all omnivorous and carnivorous animals such as birds of prey, badgers, wolves, bears, big cats and small cats, wild dogs etc sadly have to do this to survive. Do you advocate for killing all omnivorous and carnivorous animals then just because they need to sadly kill to survive or are you just unjustly biased and discriminative against foxes alone? Like I said before, it is the natural food chain and if you were to take a predator, such as foxes completely out of the equation of the food chain, it would cause great damage to the other animals numbers and the life that is shown in that food chain, such as the animals the foxes sadly kill and eat would then multiply and then would end up starving to death by themselves simply because, due to there being no natural predators, there are so many of them and not enough food to go round (humans are a good species to look at here as we have no natural predators now besides ourselves and have overpopulated this planet and caused so many other species, even ourselves, to suffer as a result). Plus even though predators do sadly kill very young animals, predators usually kill the old and sick ones most of all as well so, in a sort of way, is a kind of natural version of euthanasia for other wild animals. Like I said before, it is horrible, yes, but this is nature.
Secondly, hunting does NOT keep fox numbers down as hunting is just purely barbarically abhorrent and sickening vile so called "entertainment" for sick "people", it is NOT a form of conservation at all and Thirdly, even if any animals numbers were too high, (quite funny really considering humans are THE most overpopulated and environmentally damaging species on Earth, yet are humans "hunted" in order for our numbers to be kept under control?) there are humane ways of successful lowering their numbers to a more acceptable level without resorting to the violent, unimaginably horrifying and sickeningly evil killing that hunts do!!
You claim that you are "not a supporter of killing wildlife" but by being a supporter of killing innocent foxes and by reading all your comments in the last few substack posts, I am afraid that you have shown the opposite of this.
Nah sorry dont agree 1 bit what your saying, if like so many of us on this site condone foxhunting, deer hunting badger baiting etc maybe you should come off the site looks like your support for the upper class scums got into your head but it hasnt in ours, you say you love conservation well these hoiray henrys go around digging up animals churn up tje countryside with their thug riders and destroy hedges with their horses not great conservation there is it really ???????
Claire, if you have not done so already can I please encourage you to watch the Channel 4 item about hunting which aired this evening. This sums up very well why we on this post support PTW and abhor hunting with hounds. It is brutal, cruel and illegal and needs consigning to the history books. As for foxes being pests, I’m sorry but I disagree. Most farmers don’t have an issue with foxes as their staple diet is rabbit, which eat a lot of crops. Yes, they will take poultry (I’ve lost some myself) but only because I failed on occasion to secure them properly at night. It’s also the case that the fox population will regulate itself if allowed to do so. And with several hunts having false earths to breed foxes to ensure good numbers for hunting ( I kid you not) the whole pest issue is a non starter. Have a nice evening
Would you like to be chased for hours, exausted, cant go on any longer, so you have no choice but to give up. You stop,,20 plus hounds rip you to pieces, you pray death will come soon. I would like them to have the same done to them. We are talking about savage murdering cruel scum here .
Rosemary, i watched through tear filled eyes. Hope this powerful footage of the suffering and cruelty the poor foxes are subjected to will get more support and more arrests. Well done to the Sabs,.they are the best.
It is so hard to watch, I know but we must never look away. North Dorset sabs are the group I follow as they are close to me. Very professional, as are all sabs these days! Very proud of them! Dorset Police stepping up? I like it was mentioned sabs are legal monitors of illegal activity, - hope that message reaches all police forces across the country! If anyone missed it, it's on Channel 4 facebook. https://www.facebook.com/Channel4News/videos/689864239693625/?locale=en_GB
There are a lot of things in life i do not agree with in every way but the fox hunt was a part of the life i was born into and i have always been told we have to put up with a few things we don't like.
Foxes have been seen taking peoples pet cats out their gardens. Do those cats not have any rights to life?
I am not sure what you mean by that. By 'the hunt' i mean 'the fox hunt'. They would not hurt an alpaca. Just trying to keep the fox numbers under control.
I can not understand why anyone would hurt an alpaca. Alpaca's are nice animals.
I am not so fond of trophy hunters if that is what you mean.
That was STAGhounds not the fox hunt. Deer hunting is illegal. If you want to block them feel free. Deer are harmless. May be poachers. I don't know all the facts but i am definitely not in favour of deer hunting.
Read through the substack go on google the hunt killed a pregnant alpaca their dogs were out of control tresspassing on land they were barred from also the cats that were savaged being torn limb from limb were actually on their own residential property when out of control dogs again killed an innocent pet
This is essential for the wellbeing of wildlife!
Keep it coming everyone! I agree, large or small groups brave enough to face the hunts deserve all the equipment we can muster. PTW really is being effective, as always, proud to be part of it!
Fantastic news!! The legends on the ground deserve all the help they can get. Until PTW came along, all their efforts have been at their own personal expense, which demonstrates the level of commitment these heroes possess. Equipment to help keep them safe and expose the wildlife crime taking place is priceless 💪
Brilliant work Protect the Wild! You and the amazing hunt sabs are lifesavers!!! Please keep going!! A thought of mine, to help defend the hunt sabs out in action even more, what about supplying crash helmets and body protectors (to protect the sabs head's and bodies from attackers) and pepper spray cans (which I think are legal) to the hunt sabs so they can defend themselves with these? It is just a thought, as there must be something, some type of equipment that the hunt sabs can easily use to protect themselves from getting hurt surely? After all, it is encouraging to see the police start to arrest these barbaric thugs (the hunts and supporters), but they have so far sadly failed to stop attacks on the hunt sabs from happening, so is there anything like what Jon Knight or what I mentioned above here be used to help protect the sabs from being attacked? Plus, if the attackers can see/have seen the hunt sabs have defensive equipment that they can use to effectively defend themselves with, they might think twice about trying to attack them again?
Rape alarms? Might distract the hounds and hunt as a bonus!
Very good idea too!
Watch Channel 4 news catch up at 8pm tonight (Channel 15 which is Channel4+1
I relay my post to Claire. Cannot beleive it.
Sounds like a hunt supporter to me ???
Its unbelievable that somrone supports savages .
I haven't got it in for foxes. I like foxes in some ways.
People have got it in for the fox hunt which is why i am standing up for them.
I don't like bullies so please do not take me the wrong way.
I am not a cruel person. I don't like cruelty.
Ask google 'what do foxes eat?'
"Every little helps" sounds familiar!.
There is some sort of mix up here about what goes on.
STAG HUNTERS and the fox hunt are not the same people.
Hare coursers are also different collections of people.
Deer hunting is already illegal.
Taking eggs from birds nests is also illegal.
Hares are harmless and really do not deserve a shadow of a great scary dog coming up behind them.
I am not over fond of television and can not view channel 4 this evening.
I have got pet rabbits. They are harmless creatures and do not deserve to be eaten by a fox.
Good evening to you also. There is no need for a feud.
It does make a difference if the fox hunt is getting the blame for illegal deer hunting. A stag is a deer in case you are not aware of that.
Sorry to hear that.
I have not supported badger baiting or deer hunting in any way and i particularly do not like hare coursing. Hares are harmless.
I am not really enjoying this debate, only saying what i think. That is my opinion. I am not sure i will make any more comments. Partly because my name is my real name and i need to keep an eye on my own safety. But don't take me the wrong way, i don't like cruelty. Just think the fox numbers need to be kept under control. As they were for a thousand years until the fox hunt got stopped in 2005. A thousand years is a long time and that is the life most of us were born into. I would not do anything to be cruel to a fox. If you think along the lines of a black and white gangster movie.
A fox eats a rabbit, a lamb and a chicken out of the farmers field then gets chased itself. Karma. What goes around comes back around.
Cameras keeping an eye on the countryside is a good idea. But not to target the fox hunt. Leave those people be and stop picking on them.
They are out killing innocent foxes! They are not "picking on them", they are saving innocent lives and should be saluted and honoured for their efforts to help save innocent wild animals! I don't mean to be rude here, but if you are such a strong supporter of killing wildlife, why are you on here? Protect the wild exists to end all wildlife crime, including foxhunting, for good.
Watch Channel 4 news catch up at 8pm tonight (Channel 15 which is Channel4+1
Thank you for letting us know Mrs Rosemary B Gilbert. I have just looked on my TV guide for channel 15 at 8pm tonight and It is brilliant that the truth is being shown live!! Hopefully, the more exposure and the more times the reality is shown, the harder it will be for hunts to easily wriggle free out of their lying claims once and for all!!
I am not a supporter of killing wildlife. Foxes kill wildlife themselves which is why the fox numbers need to be kept under control.
First of, all predators kill other wildlife to survive, all omnivorous and carnivorous animals such as birds of prey, badgers, wolves, bears, big cats and small cats, wild dogs etc sadly have to do this to survive. Do you advocate for killing all omnivorous and carnivorous animals then just because they need to sadly kill to survive or are you just unjustly biased and discriminative against foxes alone? Like I said before, it is the natural food chain and if you were to take a predator, such as foxes completely out of the equation of the food chain, it would cause great damage to the other animals numbers and the life that is shown in that food chain, such as the animals the foxes sadly kill and eat would then multiply and then would end up starving to death by themselves simply because, due to there being no natural predators, there are so many of them and not enough food to go round (humans are a good species to look at here as we have no natural predators now besides ourselves and have overpopulated this planet and caused so many other species, even ourselves, to suffer as a result). Plus even though predators do sadly kill very young animals, predators usually kill the old and sick ones most of all as well so, in a sort of way, is a kind of natural version of euthanasia for other wild animals. Like I said before, it is horrible, yes, but this is nature.
Secondly, hunting does NOT keep fox numbers down as hunting is just purely barbarically abhorrent and sickening vile so called "entertainment" for sick "people", it is NOT a form of conservation at all and Thirdly, even if any animals numbers were too high, (quite funny really considering humans are THE most overpopulated and environmentally damaging species on Earth, yet are humans "hunted" in order for our numbers to be kept under control?) there are humane ways of successful lowering their numbers to a more acceptable level without resorting to the violent, unimaginably horrifying and sickeningly evil killing that hunts do!!
You claim that you are "not a supporter of killing wildlife" but by being a supporter of killing innocent foxes and by reading all your comments in the last few substack posts, I am afraid that you have shown the opposite of this.
Nah sorry dont agree 1 bit what your saying, if like so many of us on this site condone foxhunting, deer hunting badger baiting etc maybe you should come off the site looks like your support for the upper class scums got into your head but it hasnt in ours, you say you love conservation well these hoiray henrys go around digging up animals churn up tje countryside with their thug riders and destroy hedges with their horses not great conservation there is it really ???????
So true Joeann. I completely agree with you.
Claire, if you have not done so already can I please encourage you to watch the Channel 4 item about hunting which aired this evening. This sums up very well why we on this post support PTW and abhor hunting with hounds. It is brutal, cruel and illegal and needs consigning to the history books. As for foxes being pests, I’m sorry but I disagree. Most farmers don’t have an issue with foxes as their staple diet is rabbit, which eat a lot of crops. Yes, they will take poultry (I’ve lost some myself) but only because I failed on occasion to secure them properly at night. It’s also the case that the fox population will regulate itself if allowed to do so. And with several hunts having false earths to breed foxes to ensure good numbers for hunting ( I kid you not) the whole pest issue is a non starter. Have a nice evening
Picking on the hunters really what about the damage they do and the brutal way they kill i cant believe youve said that words fail me 🤷♂️
Would you like to be chased for hours, exausted, cant go on any longer, so you have no choice but to give up. You stop,,20 plus hounds rip you to pieces, you pray death will come soon. I would like them to have the same done to them. We are talking about savage murdering cruel scum here .
Rosemary, i watched through tear filled eyes. Hope this powerful footage of the suffering and cruelty the poor foxes are subjected to will get more support and more arrests. Well done to the Sabs,.they are the best.
It is so hard to watch, I know but we must never look away. North Dorset sabs are the group I follow as they are close to me. Very professional, as are all sabs these days! Very proud of them! Dorset Police stepping up? I like it was mentioned sabs are legal monitors of illegal activity, - hope that message reaches all police forces across the country! If anyone missed it, it's on Channel 4 facebook. https://www.facebook.com/Channel4News/videos/689864239693625/?locale=en_GB
Yes it was good the Police emphasized that the Sabs are legal and the Fox hunters illegal. Good result
Watch Channel 4 news catch up at 8pm tonight (Channel 15 which is Channel4+1
There are a lot of things in life i do not agree with in every way but the fox hunt was a part of the life i was born into and i have always been told we have to put up with a few things we don't like.
Foxes have been seen taking peoples pet cats out their gardens. Do those cats not have any rights to life?
The hunt has been killing people pets , even a alpaca, they they are not hungry they do it to get some sort of gratification .
I am not sure what you mean by that. By 'the hunt' i mean 'the fox hunt'. They would not hurt an alpaca. Just trying to keep the fox numbers under control.
I can not understand why anyone would hurt an alpaca. Alpaca's are nice animals.
I am not so fond of trophy hunters if that is what you mean.
They can't have been frightened of it.
An alpaca would not say boo to a goose.
Claire, did you not read the PTW report about savaged alpacas? Here is the link if you can't find it. https://protectthewild.substack.com/p/tiverton-staghounds-savage-and-kill Also, do you know about Mimi's law? Cats savaged and killed by fox hounds?
That was STAGhounds not the fox hunt. Deer hunting is illegal. If you want to block them feel free. Deer are harmless. May be poachers. I don't know all the facts but i am definitely not in favour of deer hunting.
Read through the substack go on google the hunt killed a pregnant alpaca their dogs were out of control tresspassing on land they were barred from also the cats that were savaged being torn limb from limb were actually on their own residential property when out of control dogs again killed an innocent pet
They were staghounds (deerhunters) that killed the alpaca. Nasty.