Excellent work, slowly but sure these despicable hunters are becoming the hunted. The law needs to catch up and take on board the increasingly public interest in stopping for good this cruel and illegal activity.
Brilliant work! The drone is clearly an excellent investment. These individuals, these entitled, offensive people who think they can break the law as they please, really do need reining in and should face the consequences of their illegal bloodlust. I would love to see them heavily fined and even imprisoned. We can only hope 🤞
Brilliant, I didn't realise it was immediate cloud upload. Maybe they won't if they were to take matters into their own hands. It's their arrogance makes them think they are above the law.
Hi Ian, go ahead and “quote” on anything you like chap. Let’s keep this accelerating momentum going by all means available. The quashing of these vile pastimes and the jailing or imposing heavy fines to those involved is paramount. The moss ball is rolling and gathering speed, let’s pull all the stops to help and protect our dwindling beautiful wildlife. Long live the fox 🦊
What do you expect from a bunch of privileged tossers. When Charles broke his arm playing polo, he had a servant to dress him & to hold his penis whilst he pee'd.
You need to find who in the Cheshire Police Management are sympathetic to hunting, and name them. Ditto the biased judiciary. Whilst they are hiding behind the mask of a 'superior authority', it's always going to be a struggle to get these cretins effectively prosecuted. Keep up the excellent exposures...
I am overwhelmed by the dedication and sacrifices made by the people who commit themselves to eliminate the cruelty humanity willfully imposes on animals. But for these actions (without adequate support from the law and supposed law enforcers) nothing would be done to stop these medieval, evil practices, one day, surely, these people will eliminate all these terrible crimes! Thank you on behalf of the many many animals you strive to protect.
Hi Inogen. You can of course donate to any group directly but drones like these are around £1k including a day's training. That's a great deal of money for the vast majority of people to give away, which is partly why we launched our Equipment Fund which collates all the paid subs we have on here on Substack into a 'pot' which we ringfence entirely for buying things like this. The idea is that lots of amounts add up to big totals - and of course we talk to each group we support to make sure they will use any equipment we provide legally and properly. We think of it as taking away the guesswork. Paid subs are of course optional and our content is (and always will be) free - but if you were looking to contribute to something specifically designed to put 'eyes in the field' or 'eyes in the sky' this might be something of interest. Cheers
When I saw your price for drones. I looked them up on Amazon. (I'm in Canada, so it is Canadian dollars). On only the first page of SEVEN ! There were 64 drones with cameras. STarting at $50 for kids, to the most expensive being $650. So many around the $100 - $300. There was one for $5000 and another for $2000. So roughly a $1000 drone in canadian would cost $580 pounds. Just say'n - it could somehow be bought here, and sent to England. Hmmmmmm
Hi Fiona. Thanks for the comment. We bought from a company here in the UK with a great reputation for customer service on the recommendation of someone who has flown drones for some years. To be fair it wasn;t quite £1k and I perhaps unwisely rounded-up in my previous response, but we're always trying to balance cost with quality and will continue to do so - we got a good deal and would use them again - but, yes, depending on what the group required and how much the drone would be used we could supply cheaper kit because there are indeed any number of less expensive drones: the cheaper ones don't always come with 4K video recording (footage has been deemed not good for enough in court in the past because it wasn't sharp enough to clearly identify individuals - and remember we're posting a compressed version of the original here), don't have the types of controllers most groups are asking for, have shorter battery lives than others, and I was including a day's training which while not expensive isn't cheap either and we included SD cards. We'll keep our eyes open on this though and if we can get the same for less in the future we will.
Great to hear you have a good source. All I did was just type in "Drones and Cameras", not really knowing what I was looking at. But doing what I can to help you guys (and wildlife), always wishing I could do more.
When my daughter was very young she had a little pony who we took to small local shows for fun, the pony is well into his 20s now and is a valued part of our family and will stay with us for as long as he lives. In my naivety I did know know about the connection between hunts and some pony clubs until I overheard some “ladies” talking about their experiences out with the Surrey Union. When asked they would always give the same answer, “ oh, we don’t go for the kill it’s just the fun of riding out with the pack and seeing the dogs work”. To this day I don’t understand how they had the balls to say this, justifying their involvement because they didn’t witness the kill. I wish I had been more informed and given the bitches something to talk about next time they went to a meet (preferably in the shape of a black eye). Every single person involved is personally responsible for the cruelty inflicted on OUR wildlife and should be punished.
I had exactly the same experience with many riding schools (one in particular, I would mention it's name here but I don't know whether I would be allowed) when I used to go horse riding and I think the exact same as you, I just wish I had known about this back then. A bit of a long story: When I was looking to get a horse of my own and do what they called a half horse ownership (the riding school can use that horse for their own lessons and in return, you only pay them half of what diy livery there would charge and they will look after the horse when you are sick), the owner of the facility said "I think you will want a horse that has been "hunted". Immediately, my mother and I looked at each other shocked (we knew a small amount of hunting then, not as much as now though but enough to know it is evil) and questioned what she/they meant when she said this. The 2nd in charge claimed that "oh foxhunting doesn't exist anymore, it is banned now. It has been "banned" since the hunting act 2004 came into force. it is nowadays literally just a trail the dogs and horses follow and it is good to have a horse that has been out "hunting" as that means the horse won't be as scared of loud noises as the horse will be used to the sound of dogs barking and horns". My mother and I didn't trust her but decided to take her word for it (as back then, my mother and I didn't know about protect the wild, we didn't listen to the news or know what happens politically like now). A while later, my mother and I weren't happy with the riding school due to personal reasons but the main reason why I chose to leave (as I was the only one riding, my mother left the decision to me), the "crux" of the matter was that a while later, when I was in a riding lesson, my mother was talking to the 2nd in charge and asked her why she didn't get back to us from last week and she smugly said "oh, I was out hunting". Both my mother and I didn't trust them at all, left and never returned after hearing that again. I only wish I had known then what I know now thanks to protect the wild, as I would have known that this was a complete lie what they said (My mother and I didn't trust them anyway when they were saying this but knew nothing to the contrary back then so couldn't really challenge her/their words). I also remember another riding school mentioning "trail hunting" as well so I sadly wouldn't be at all surprised if all the riding schools and pony clubs are up to their necks in being involved with these killings and murder! I am glad you have brought this up Mel Mackay so I know that this didn't just happen to my family and I or that it was just the riding schools that I went to.
This is amazing! Well done to you all for your excellent work and diligence. With evidence this clear and irrefutable the police are running out of excuses not to prosecute.
I will never understand the mentality of a hunter. They know it’s illegal to hunt and murder foxes, which is why they go to such great lengths to sneakily try to hide what they are doing. Yet they still wilfully refuse to respect and obey the law, arrogantly putting civilians in danger of road traffic accidents and causing mayhem whenever they go. Their bloodlust must be frenzied. I would suggest they spend their money on some serious therapy that they evidently need.
Watching the video , i came up with this brilliant idea (if I may say so myself :) ) . What if........... the sabs could somehow get the scent of a fox. Last resort use a very safe real fox. To take the hounds on a wild goose chase (of course not literally geese, you know what I mean). Ha - miles away from the tosses on horses. Hmm or what scent, sound , food, if any would make a horse go bolting, bucking off. Or maybe the hounds would be attracted to some kind of strong scented store bought food. "A long trail of kibble". Just a thought.
You got me on a mission googling Aniseed for dogs. It is expensive and sounds like we could be giving the hounds nice, healthy coats too. What other smells could distract them. Some crap, dogs love crap.
This is an absolutely brilliant piece of work which, literally, adds another dimension to the work of the brave souls involved. As well as providing incredibly clear video of incidents and occurrences it should involve less risk of GBH to the monitoring sabs. One possible pitfall might be the difficulty in confirming identities of the offenders from a distance. No doubt this factor is already under consideration.
I think by distracting the dogs, getting them off course (with scent of aniseed or really smelly treats) , is a brilliant start. We may not be able to 'bust' the wankers with the footage from the drones. But we could be entertained with watching the dogs going nuts, running around in circles. Which is what I hope for. An added bonus would be getting one of those pricks in there trying to get the hounds attention back, as long as he doesn't harm / punish them for doing it.
Excellent work, slowly but sure these despicable hunters are becoming the hunted. The law needs to catch up and take on board the increasingly public interest in stopping for good this cruel and illegal activity.
Hi Jo. I might have to use that 'hunters are becoming the hunted' next time I write about drones! Thanks :)
Absolutely agree Jo.
Drones are the way to go! Wish we we could supply more to protect foxes, protect sabs and get prosecutions!
We will supply them, Rosemary, we will. These thungs take a little bit of time and we need to check out every application, but we're working on it!
Amazing work, guys! Thank you for your diligence and compassion.
Brilliant work! The drone is clearly an excellent investment. These individuals, these entitled, offensive people who think they can break the law as they please, really do need reining in and should face the consequences of their illegal bloodlust. I would love to see them heavily fined and even imprisoned. We can only hope 🤞
Please be careful, I can see someone taking a shotgun or weapon to down your new drone as it unlocks too many of their dispicable despicable lies.
Brilliant, I didn't realise it was immediate cloud upload. Maybe they won't if they were to take matters into their own hands. It's their arrogance makes them think they are above the law.
Hi Ian, go ahead and “quote” on anything you like chap. Let’s keep this accelerating momentum going by all means available. The quashing of these vile pastimes and the jailing or imposing heavy fines to those involved is paramount. The moss ball is rolling and gathering speed, let’s pull all the stops to help and protect our dwindling beautiful wildlife. Long live the fox 🦊
What do you expect from a bunch of privileged tossers. When Charles broke his arm playing polo, he had a servant to dress him & to hold his penis whilst he pee'd.
Great work.
You need to find who in the Cheshire Police Management are sympathetic to hunting, and name them. Ditto the biased judiciary. Whilst they are hiding behind the mask of a 'superior authority', it's always going to be a struggle to get these cretins effectively prosecuted. Keep up the excellent exposures...
I am overwhelmed by the dedication and sacrifices made by the people who commit themselves to eliminate the cruelty humanity willfully imposes on animals. But for these actions (without adequate support from the law and supposed law enforcers) nothing would be done to stop these medieval, evil practices, one day, surely, these people will eliminate all these terrible crimes! Thank you on behalf of the many many animals you strive to protect.
Who can we donate to, to get more drones?
Hi Inogen. You can of course donate to any group directly but drones like these are around £1k including a day's training. That's a great deal of money for the vast majority of people to give away, which is partly why we launched our Equipment Fund which collates all the paid subs we have on here on Substack into a 'pot' which we ringfence entirely for buying things like this. The idea is that lots of amounts add up to big totals - and of course we talk to each group we support to make sure they will use any equipment we provide legally and properly. We think of it as taking away the guesswork. Paid subs are of course optional and our content is (and always will be) free - but if you were looking to contribute to something specifically designed to put 'eyes in the field' or 'eyes in the sky' this might be something of interest. Cheers
When I saw your price for drones. I looked them up on Amazon. (I'm in Canada, so it is Canadian dollars). On only the first page of SEVEN ! There were 64 drones with cameras. STarting at $50 for kids, to the most expensive being $650. So many around the $100 - $300. There was one for $5000 and another for $2000. So roughly a $1000 drone in canadian would cost $580 pounds. Just say'n - it could somehow be bought here, and sent to England. Hmmmmmm
Hi Fiona. Thanks for the comment. We bought from a company here in the UK with a great reputation for customer service on the recommendation of someone who has flown drones for some years. To be fair it wasn;t quite £1k and I perhaps unwisely rounded-up in my previous response, but we're always trying to balance cost with quality and will continue to do so - we got a good deal and would use them again - but, yes, depending on what the group required and how much the drone would be used we could supply cheaper kit because there are indeed any number of less expensive drones: the cheaper ones don't always come with 4K video recording (footage has been deemed not good for enough in court in the past because it wasn't sharp enough to clearly identify individuals - and remember we're posting a compressed version of the original here), don't have the types of controllers most groups are asking for, have shorter battery lives than others, and I was including a day's training which while not expensive isn't cheap either and we included SD cards. We'll keep our eyes open on this though and if we can get the same for less in the future we will.
Great to hear you have a good source. All I did was just type in "Drones and Cameras", not really knowing what I was looking at. But doing what I can to help you guys (and wildlife), always wishing I could do more.
When my daughter was very young she had a little pony who we took to small local shows for fun, the pony is well into his 20s now and is a valued part of our family and will stay with us for as long as he lives. In my naivety I did know know about the connection between hunts and some pony clubs until I overheard some “ladies” talking about their experiences out with the Surrey Union. When asked they would always give the same answer, “ oh, we don’t go for the kill it’s just the fun of riding out with the pack and seeing the dogs work”. To this day I don’t understand how they had the balls to say this, justifying their involvement because they didn’t witness the kill. I wish I had been more informed and given the bitches something to talk about next time they went to a meet (preferably in the shape of a black eye). Every single person involved is personally responsible for the cruelty inflicted on OUR wildlife and should be punished.
I agree Mel. These "sort" are just cruel savages with no respect for wildlife. . The women are just as vicious and evil as the men.
Completely agree!!
I had exactly the same experience with many riding schools (one in particular, I would mention it's name here but I don't know whether I would be allowed) when I used to go horse riding and I think the exact same as you, I just wish I had known about this back then. A bit of a long story: When I was looking to get a horse of my own and do what they called a half horse ownership (the riding school can use that horse for their own lessons and in return, you only pay them half of what diy livery there would charge and they will look after the horse when you are sick), the owner of the facility said "I think you will want a horse that has been "hunted". Immediately, my mother and I looked at each other shocked (we knew a small amount of hunting then, not as much as now though but enough to know it is evil) and questioned what she/they meant when she said this. The 2nd in charge claimed that "oh foxhunting doesn't exist anymore, it is banned now. It has been "banned" since the hunting act 2004 came into force. it is nowadays literally just a trail the dogs and horses follow and it is good to have a horse that has been out "hunting" as that means the horse won't be as scared of loud noises as the horse will be used to the sound of dogs barking and horns". My mother and I didn't trust her but decided to take her word for it (as back then, my mother and I didn't know about protect the wild, we didn't listen to the news or know what happens politically like now). A while later, my mother and I weren't happy with the riding school due to personal reasons but the main reason why I chose to leave (as I was the only one riding, my mother left the decision to me), the "crux" of the matter was that a while later, when I was in a riding lesson, my mother was talking to the 2nd in charge and asked her why she didn't get back to us from last week and she smugly said "oh, I was out hunting". Both my mother and I didn't trust them at all, left and never returned after hearing that again. I only wish I had known then what I know now thanks to protect the wild, as I would have known that this was a complete lie what they said (My mother and I didn't trust them anyway when they were saying this but knew nothing to the contrary back then so couldn't really challenge her/their words). I also remember another riding school mentioning "trail hunting" as well so I sadly wouldn't be at all surprised if all the riding schools and pony clubs are up to their necks in being involved with these killings and murder! I am glad you have brought this up Mel Mackay so I know that this didn't just happen to my family and I or that it was just the riding schools that I went to.
Well done! Fab work.
Surely these evil 'humans' can't keep on evading a just prosecution with this sort of evidence!!!!
Be so good to hear about a sensible punishment to send out the right message to these morons
This is amazing! Well done to you all for your excellent work and diligence. With evidence this clear and irrefutable the police are running out of excuses not to prosecute.
I will never understand the mentality of a hunter. They know it’s illegal to hunt and murder foxes, which is why they go to such great lengths to sneakily try to hide what they are doing. Yet they still wilfully refuse to respect and obey the law, arrogantly putting civilians in danger of road traffic accidents and causing mayhem whenever they go. Their bloodlust must be frenzied. I would suggest they spend their money on some serious therapy that they evidently need.
Watching the video , i came up with this brilliant idea (if I may say so myself :) ) . What if........... the sabs could somehow get the scent of a fox. Last resort use a very safe real fox. To take the hounds on a wild goose chase (of course not literally geese, you know what I mean). Ha - miles away from the tosses on horses. Hmm or what scent, sound , food, if any would make a horse go bolting, bucking off. Or maybe the hounds would be attracted to some kind of strong scented store bought food. "A long trail of kibble". Just a thought.
With some lovely dog treats at the end of the trail.....
I have heard about hunts dragging a dead fox around to get the hounds moving.
Evil scum!
I know. They are still evil scum though.
You got me on a mission googling Aniseed for dogs. It is expensive and sounds like we could be giving the hounds nice, healthy coats too. What other smells could distract them. Some crap, dogs love crap.
YES ! yes ! Now we're getting on a roll. Tactics are snowballing for a win.
This is an absolutely brilliant piece of work which, literally, adds another dimension to the work of the brave souls involved. As well as providing incredibly clear video of incidents and occurrences it should involve less risk of GBH to the monitoring sabs. One possible pitfall might be the difficulty in confirming identities of the offenders from a distance. No doubt this factor is already under consideration.
I think by distracting the dogs, getting them off course (with scent of aniseed or really smelly treats) , is a brilliant start. We may not be able to 'bust' the wankers with the footage from the drones. But we could be entertained with watching the dogs going nuts, running around in circles. Which is what I hope for. An added bonus would be getting one of those pricks in there trying to get the hounds attention back, as long as he doesn't harm / punish them for doing it.